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Re: Evans Casino Bell Sr.

Postby Draco_Elessar » Wed Nov 16, 2016 7:06 pm

Found two things:

1 - Someone updated the fuses and fuse holder, its not original.

2 - Slot 1 does not pay out when when other slots are used, but it pays out fine when its used alone. Example: if I put in a nickel in slot 1 and a quarter in slot 5, only slot 5 will pay out. If I put in a nickel in slot 1 only, slot 1 pays out. I have been able to duplicate the issue a few times. Does anyone have any idea what might be wrong?
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Re: Evans Casino Bell Sr.

Postby Draco_Elessar » Wed Nov 16, 2016 7:26 pm

Make that 3!

I have blown a fuse twice right before it pays out. No rhyme or reason, yet.
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Re: Evans Casino Bell Sr.

Postby JHSS-1944 » Thu Nov 17, 2016 2:51 am

when a coin is in place, it triggers a "switch" ,behind / below. if I remember right , basically forcing a piece of copper strip next to another. all of these could be bent a bit, maybe the 2nd coin in makes contact with some how twerks the whole thing a bit to loose contact with the first coin. hence it thinks you only played that 1 coin.
trust me ,I know I'M not explaining this correctly. have to look at my coin entry system again, to see what interacts with what.
also the fuse might be wrong amp for what's needed. see if you can find that information. don't burn the house down.
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Re: Evans Casino Bell Sr.

Postby Draco_Elessar » Sat Nov 19, 2016 10:01 pm

I don't think it is the coin switch. The light for the slot 1 lights up. I did some more testing and it was not always paying out when its only slot 1. I took it apart and cleaned the connections. The good news is that it is not tripping the outlet fuse anymore. The bad is that slot 1 does not payout still, well its constant now. The electromagnet is getting power, but not working. My current guess is its the electromagnet is malfunctioning, corrosion somewhere along the line, or a disconnect; somewhere along the line connecting to the electromagnet. Everything works up to that point for line one. When I was going through cleaning the connections some of them had spark damage and all had a lot of grease. It could be that in removing the gunk I made a connection bad, and I just need to find it. I have tried looking for a wiring diagram for free, but have had no luck.

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Re: Evans Casino Bell Sr.

Postby JHSS-1944 » Sun Nov 20, 2016 2:45 am

well sorry I was of no real help.
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Re: Evans Casino Bell Sr.

Postby clubconsoles » Sun Nov 20, 2016 11:21 am

Hi Draco
probably stating the obvious here, but, did you try swopping a coil over from a tube that pays out correctly?
At least, this way you will know whether the coil has shorted its winding's, which sounds possible?
sorry I could not be of more help.
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Re: Evans Casino Bell Sr.

Postby Draco_Elessar » Mon Nov 21, 2016 10:14 pm

Thanks for the idea, I have seen it move, but not constantly. I'll have to try that out, and see what happens. I did some further testing and found that the electromagnet is not getting any power. So it might be a short somewhere along the line, now I just have to find it.
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Re: Evans Casino Bell Sr.

Postby Draco_Elessar » Sun Dec 04, 2016 11:13 am

JHSS-1944 wrote:when a coin is in place, it triggers a "switch" ,behind / below. if I remember right , basically forcing a piece of copper strip next to another. all of these could be bent a bit, maybe the 2nd coin in makes contact with some how twerks the whole thing a bit to loose contact with the first coin. hence it thinks you only played that 1 coin.
trust me ,I know I'M not explaining this correctly. have to look at my coin entry system again, to see what interacts with what.
also the fuse might be wrong amp for what's needed. see if you can find that information. don't burn the house down.
jeff


I miss understood how the switch was wired in the coinmech. I thought it was just one going out, but it was two for each coin slot. 1 for the EM, and the other (haven't followed it all the way back yet) my guess is the lights. I tough that the leaf switch was good because the lights worked, but it is a two way leaf switch(?), and one contact was good and the other had a lot of corrosion on it. So far slot 1 has worked all but once. Which happened after it tripped the breaker.

Rereading my posts I had fuse when I meant breaker.....:oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops:
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