Original Mills Silver Palace

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Original Mills Silver Palace

Postby altort » Sun Sep 07, 2014 5:58 pm

There was some discussion a wile back about the high top Silver Palace slot real verses fake, I came across this one today and it is a real one, took some pictures but difficult to get a good angle since it was in a room full of slots and other machines, all original mostly complete, missing the top marque, an electrical cord was cut believed to be for a light to signal the operator when a winning combination was hit since it is not a pay out machine.
I took many pictures, I thought I would post some.
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Re: Original Mills Silver Palace

Postby SLOT DYNASTY » Mon Sep 08, 2014 2:19 am

As real, and original as this Silver Palace may look, something is definitely wrong.
It has a 7-7-7 reel bundle, and a 2-5 with jackpot breastplate, and no payout tray.
This would not have been on location, with a change-girl standing by. She would
have to be with you the entire time, handing out a multitude of 2 to 18 coin, plus
jackpot payouts. I don't see this happening anywhere. This machine would have to
have a totalizer, that would tally your winnings, to be collected when you were done.
This machine must have been set up as a free-play version. But that still doesn't
explain why it would have an award plate. I have never seen one of these without
a payout tray. Yet, there is a lot of things I probably haven't seen. #-o
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Re: Original Mills Silver Palace

Postby Midcoast Vintage » Mon Sep 08, 2014 6:27 am

the reason for the pay tray blockout MAY be that the machine was on a casino stand with a pay cup in the stand. this was a common thing in the 50's, and early 60's.
the stands were usually covered in formica, as was all the rage at that time.
once pay tube was full over flow would not go to cash box.
inside the stands was a tube, similar to exhaust flex tubing, that sent coins directly to a counting room via a complicated conveyor system in the floor. (shades of rube goldberg!).
coins for payouts went into the pay cup in the stand.
this is the reason for the block out casting over the normal pay area on the high top lower front, or, in this case, the silver palace lower front.
this type set up was not only on mills.
jennings, pace / ace / space, also did this.
if you have a machine with a good size hole in the base... it was a casino machine with this type set-up.
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Re: Original Mills Silver Palace

Postby Swami » Mon Sep 08, 2014 8:44 am

I believe this machine to be 100% real. I had a real one years ago. I have been searching for a photo of it with no success. Anyway, mine was also a 10 cent machine and looked Exactly like this one. The reason for No Payout tray is because it is a Casino Machine. This was very common on Casino Hi Tops and Half Tops. They paid into a coin tray built into the cabinets the machines sat on. This system made it almost impossible for a cheater to come up through the payout tray and trip a Jackpot.

I currently have a few Hi Tops from the Horseshoe in Downtown Las Vegas that have the same Lack of a Payout tray. I have also owned some Golden Gate Half Tops that were manufactured this way. I also had a Hi Top Double from a Casino with the same set up.

Nice Machine !!!
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Re: Original Mills Silver Palace

Postby SLOT DYNASTY » Mon Sep 08, 2014 4:06 pm

Being as the machine in the photo was sitting on an aftermarket slot stand, I didn't even take into consideration, that it originally
may have been on a Formica Casino Base. I have had many different Casino machines that were on those Casino stands. But then
again, all of mine have had the traditional coin tray as well. I do remember now, that I had seen some of those bases with the
payout bowl at the upper part of the base, but don't know what machines were on top. That was a pretty slick idea, being as the
stand had a very large overflow box or hanging bag, so that the coins would not have to be retrieved as often.

Additionally: I do have a couple of questions for the later model electro-mechanical machine experts.
1) I have a Raven "Keno", which is from Harrah's Casino, with the Harrah's light-up marquee. I bought it from a person that dealt
quite heavily in used casino machines, back in the late 60's & early 70's, that had a warehouse in both Reno and Tahoe. I was told
at the time, that they were made in a very small quantity, but can't remember what that number was. I do remember seeing some
in Harrah's, and a couple of other locations, but not sure how many Casinos had them.
2) I also have a Dale Electronics "Automatic Dice", which was never on location, and was purchased from an employee of that firm,
that had it in his home. It came with an extra transformer, and full set of circuit boards. This machine was also made in very low
numbers, but don't recall that number either.
I did have stats written down at the time, but don't have any idea where they are at. If anyone has information on either of these
machines, I would appreciate hearing from you.
Thanks, Bill
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Re: Original Mills Silver Palace

Postby altort » Mon Sep 08, 2014 9:59 pm

This slot does have holes cut in the base with tubes for the coins to go straight down in to the stand, no jack pot just a fake with coins in it for show only, there is some kind of electrical switch set up on the vertical finger for the three bars but I could not get a good look at it, the slot is difficult to get to since it's in a room with dozens of other slots.
I tried to post more pictures but I guess that the board attachment quota has been reached.
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Re: Original Mills Silver Palace

Postby Swami » Tue Sep 09, 2014 11:11 am

Here are just a few Casino Machines that did not have payout trays. The machines paid into a bowl or tray mounted directly into the stand. All these machines have a hole in the bottom for the payouts. The bottom photos shows 3 Jennings machines without payout trays. To the left is a Jennings Continental mounted on a Casino Stand with the coin bowl built in.
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