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The evolution of The Baby Grand C&F slot machines

PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2024 2:27 am
by Sslots
I promise my last post regarding The Baby Grand, there just wasnt a lot off information regarding them easily found so I thought I'll make a post about the evolution of The Baby Grand C&F slot machines, I've spent many hours researching and working on these and here are my findings.

From the first model in 1931 by C&F to the Genco Ballgum model in 1934 showcases a fascinating journey in design and functionality:

The first generation of TBG was created in 1931 and had a anti cheat device within them, similar to those you would see in Feilds Baby jack coin drop and also similar colours to those in Baby Jacks.


Versions and models:

1931 The Baby Grand:

The initial models of The Baby Grand featured an intricate anti-cheat mechanism, which was quickly removed before mass production due to frequent jamming everytime it was picked up or moved.
There was also more moving parts than you'll see in the later versions.

1932-33 The Baby Grand:

This model had a few key features upgraded on the mechanism making for a smoother running off the machine which is the most common TBG you see today.
But they also introduce two coinage options, Model A (Nickel) and Model B (Penny).
They also done a slightly different paint job on this version.

1933 Baby Grand:

This iteration retained the core mechanism of its predecessors but underwent a cosmetic transformation. The front and top panels were redesigned to achieve a sleeker look and a rebranding to simply "Baby Grand," omitting the preceding "The" from its name.

The 1933 Baby Grand came in both Model A and B.
This model is very hard to come by as it only just came out a few months before Fields got brought over, so didn't make it into mass production.

1934 Genco Baby Grand Vendor/ Baby Bell:
I've done another post about this, I'll post link below.

The Genco Baby Grand Vendor inspired by the Baby Grand, represented a refined and enhanced version of the original concept. This iteration integrated a vending machine feature and a sophisticated locking system that allowed for automatic payout to be turnt on/off. The machine seamlessly transitioned between its roles as a trade stimulator and a slot machine, embodying a harmonious blend of form and function.




There is apparently a dime version off The baby grand by C&F as well, however I've not seen any proof off this as off yet.


I'm happy to help anyone who's got any questions regarding them, or anyone who needs support with one.

I'll include some photos off each machine and will include some old adverts I've found.

Thanks

Frankie

Genco Baby Grand Vendor post

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Re: The evolution of The Baby Grand C&F slot machines

PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2024 8:05 pm
by flyingfred
Very well done post. I really enjoyed the history lesson.

-Fred-

Re: The evolution of The Baby Grand C&F slot machines

PostPosted: Tue Sep 10, 2024 3:20 am
by Sslots
flyingfred wrote:Very well done post. I really enjoyed the history lesson.

-Fred-


Thanks Fred appreciate it :)

Hope you're doing good :)

Re: The evolution of The Baby Grand C&F slot machines

PostPosted: Mon Nov 10, 2025 2:17 pm
by Sslots
So I've come across something unexpected.

I’ve found two different write-ups from 1933:

1️⃣ One states that Leo Burman of C&F was the creator of the new 1933 Baby.
2️⃣ The other, published just one month later, says:
“BINGO NOVELTY CO. – The feature of the exhibit was the new 1933 model of Baby Grand.”

From this, it looks like Burman was involved with both C&F and Bingo at the same time. And once Field/FIELDS was bought out, it appears that Leo may have taken over the remaining Baby Grand stock, parts, or tooling. He then pushed forward with a refreshed design, kept the existing C&F branding on the machines, but marketed or exhibited them through Bingo.

So if my understanding is correct, then in theory, the 1933 Baby Grand was originally produced by C&F, and after the buyout the front panel/cabinet styling was updated and the machines were released or displayed under Bingo.

Re: The evolution of The Baby Grand C&F slot machines

PostPosted: Tue Nov 11, 2025 10:30 am
by nvmos2
Very interesting.
In which publication(S) did you find those 2 write-ups?
Thanks.

Re: The evolution of The Baby Grand C&F slot machines

PostPosted: Sat Nov 15, 2025 10:44 am
by Sslots
nvmos2 wrote:Very interesting.
In which publication(S) did you find those 2 write-ups?
Thanks.


I'll reply to your Facebook message and will send over :)

Re: The evolution of The Baby Grand C&F slot machines

PostPosted: Tue Nov 18, 2025 12:12 pm
by nvmos2
What Facebook msg?
Nothing received