Mills Pay out Questions

[randyjaco]

I am a neophyte and in the process of restoring a 5 cent Mills Goose Neck. I have the manual and have been working on the payout slides. I have thoroughly cleaned them and they are bone dry. The still are not paying properly. They are paying out 2 extra nickles for amounts 8 and under. 1 nickle extra for 12- 18 and one short for 20 nickle pay outs. I am also getting some occasional jamming at the joint of the coin tube and the slide cover. Any suggestions?

TIA
Randy

[TheFatman]

Is it possible to have the payout slides in the wrong order in the stack??? I really think that is why. Or you have wrong slides ... lets hope they are just out of order.

Dave F

[marsonion]

Just speculating, but I think it may be possible that your lower horizontal fingers might be bent upwards a little, causing them to release the coin slides just above the ones they're intended to engage... conversely, your slide stack might be situated a little low, creating essentially the same situation. I'd suggest counting up the number of horizontal fingers and coin slides that are actuated on each of the errant payouts just to determine whether things like that might be occurring.

I am a neophyte and in the process of restoring a 5 cent Mills Goose Neck. I have the manual and have been working on the payout slides. I have thoroughly cleaned them and they are bone dry. The still are not paying properly. They are paying out 2 extra nickles for amounts 8 and under. 1 nickle extra for 12- 18 and one short for 20 nickle pay outs. I am also getting some occasional jamming at the joint of the coin tube and the slide cover. Any suggestions?

TIA
Randy

[TheFatman]

That could be as well .... take a minute to set up each payout and watch the horizontal arms to see what slides they release. Do this for each payout all the way to the 20 coin. If when all the slides dump your getting a nickle short, I am in agreement that its not positioned correctly and might be low. Scratching my head...
Dave F

[oldslotman]

If it is a gooseneck you should most likely have a 2/4/8/12/16/20 payouts. 2/4 payout slides are only 2 sizes. The two bottom slides should be the two thin ones which are two coin pay each. The next four on top are the same size, 4 coin pay each. Hope this helps.

[SLOT DYNASTY]

Another thing you may want to look into, is the possibility that your machine was originally built for
the Foreign market, and has a slide set for whatever that coinage was. There are several Foreign and
US coins, that are close in diameter, but the thicknesses vary. I have found that most cases of this, are
more likely to short you a coin or two, rather than pay too many. A good example, are the English, and
French made machines, that everyone likes to call a "Ben Hur", which they ARE NOT. The large English
1d penny, is very close to our US half dollar, and the machine will play on them just fine. Only thing is,
the 2 coin pay, will usually pay correctly, but as you progress to the higher, it will short 1, then 2, etc.
Hopefully this isn't your problem. But if it is, a new set of slides, posts & fingers are in order. To start,
take out the slide set, and start stacking them, and the coins, at each interval, to see if all the heights
match correctly. Use a metal scale across the top of each stack, (not a wood ruler), to make sure you
have clearance. If the scale is flat on the slide surface, with room for an extra coin, that will be why
you are getting extra on the pays, and could be your problem. Also, use older nickels in this process.
Do not stack up newer nickels, that have a higher ridge, as that will tend to make a difference in the
checking. On the other hand, if your scale was on the coin, and not touching the slide, that would be
an indication of shortage on pays. Ooops! Forgot to mention the most important thing. Do this with
the coins in the center of the slides, not beside them. Just another one of those 'senior moments'!

[TheFatman]

Senior Moment .... I get those every day. Beginning to being able to use them in my favor. Practice makes perfect.
DaveF

[randyjaco]

Thanks guys for all the responses. It is going to be a day or three before I can get back in the shop to try out your suggestions. I am thinking that I am missing a 2 pay slide. I believe the previous owner may have substituted a 4 for a 2
Is it possible to get a single 2 pay slide or am I going to have to search Ebay for the next 6 moths?

Thanks again
Randy

[randyjaco]

I finally got a chance to check my slides. It is as I thought, I have 4 four pay slides. I need a 2 cherries pay slide
Does anyone know where I can get one? Does anyone know the part number? Something tells me this is going to be a hard find.
Randy

[oldslotman]

I finally got a chance to check my slides. It is as I thought, I have 4 four pay slides. I need a 2 cherries pay slide
Does anyone know where I can get one? Does anyone know the part number? Something tells me this is going to be a hard find.
Randy

Is your machine a 2/4 payout. If so you should have 4 of the 4 coin slides. The master slide will be a 2 coin slide and the one top of the master will be a 2 coin also. The next 4 slides will be 4 coin pay. Slides will pay 2/2/4/4/4/4/ which will payout the totals of 2/4/8/12/16/20.