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Mills locks: back door vs. cash box

Posted:
Sun Mar 03, 2024 8:04 am
by insertcoinhere
I have been of the belief that the lock for the back door of a Mills machine was the same as the lock for the cash box door. A recent auction on a popular auction site however suggests the cash box keys are shorter which presumably means the lock nose is shorter as well. Does anyone have a parts list to validate whether the locks are the same?
Not trying to solve an issue with this question but am trying to understand the machines better. I would not go out and buy a shorter lock when my current one works just fine but it would be interesting to know how they came from the factory.
Thanks!
Re: Mills locks: back door vs. cash box

Posted:
Sun Mar 03, 2024 8:48 am
by jmisatu
My cashbox door lock key is identical to my back door key in length and also only works with the notches in the up position.
Re: Mills locks: back door vs. cash box

Posted:
Sun Mar 03, 2024 9:16 am
by radiorich123
Notches up is correct. They had 2 different keys one for the top lock and one for the cash box lock.
Re: Mills locks: back door vs. cash box

Posted:
Sun Mar 03, 2024 9:29 am
by insertcoinhere
Thanks for the feedback!
Forgot to mention in initial post that i have looked at parts diagrams in The Coin Slot v8 and found that back and cashbox doors are listed as assembly's so finding the lock numbers will be challenging.
Re: Mills locks: back door vs. cash box

Posted:
Sun Mar 03, 2024 9:30 am
by insertcoinhere
radiorich123 wrote:Notches up is correct. They had 2 different keys one for the top lock and one for the cash box lock.
Was it just a shorter key? Was the lock the same? Thanks!
Re: Mills locks: back door vs. cash box

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Sun Mar 03, 2024 10:14 am
by flyingfred
My Mills cash box lock uses the shorter key.
-Fred-
Re: Mills locks: back door vs. cash box

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Sun Mar 03, 2024 11:09 am
by mazzeosa17
On the machines I've owned or worked on for customers, the back door lock/key was different from the cash box lock/key.
Re: Mills locks: back door vs. cash box

Posted:
Sun Mar 03, 2024 3:13 pm
by insertcoinhere
mazzeosa17 wrote:On the machines I've owned or worked on for customers, the back door lock/key was different from the cash box lock/key.
Yep - one key for the slot mechanic and another for the money guy
Looking at the Bell Machines Parts and Service Manual it appears the lock for the back door and cash box door have the same part number. This would suggest it is only the shorter key on the cash box door that is different. Does anyone know why Mills would go through the effort and expense to stock two different length keys? Unless the service manual is wrong and the locks are different too. We know from prior responses that the key is shorter so I would like to understand why.
Thanks all!