"ORIGINAL" War Eagle...??

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Re: "ORIGINAL" War Eagle...??

Postby Dave » Thu Feb 14, 2013 8:36 pm

The sellers id is RavagedAgain

Interesting id
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Re: "ORIGINAL" War Eagle...??

Postby iceman » Thu Feb 14, 2013 8:53 pm

I think these "fakers" realize what they have because they never include more than two or three photos in the description. At least the ones I've seen. No photos of the mechanism out of the cabinet, or of the escalator(kind of hard when the machine doesn't even have one). It's almost like they purposely avoid posting detailed photos for fear of revealing too much and jeopardizing the sale.

I mean, for $3000 I don't think it's asking too much to expect a few more photos. :roll:
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Re: "ORIGINAL" War Eagle...??

Postby iceman » Thu Feb 14, 2013 8:56 pm

Dave wrote:The sellers id is RavagedAgain

Interesting id


I noticed that too, think there's a bit of irony there.
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Re: "ORIGINAL" War Eagle...??

Postby andydotp » Thu Feb 14, 2013 8:57 pm

Maybe the seller was innocently listing something he believed was original when acquired,,, who knows?
EDIT:
Just checked his profile - valve radios etc ALL repros....
So why not say Repro/fake with the slots??

If lots of folk have bought these repro/fakes in ignorance (lets face it, 'Joe Blow' wouldn't know they were being conned) and paid the going rate of about $3k they might just be sore enough to try & offload them to the next mug punter.
There's another in a 'Walker' (?) upright case - ebay item No 330872659705 that is an utter abomination. Matching Rol A Top too (Unsure about the Watling, but very suspicious).
Both are being offered as ANTIQUE. (Seller 'shouting' not me).
Plus a shed load of the usual 'all original, antique' Golden Nuggets and Golfers,,,,,,
Infuriating isn't it?
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Re: "ORIGINAL" War Eagle...??

Postby nvmos2 » Thu Feb 14, 2013 9:17 pm

You guys may get a kick out of this;
here is the response I got from the seller while the "War Eagle" was still at the higher price;

"It bears a sticker that says Genuine Mills Machine, This is what I think excludes it from being remanufactured. the name Royal Bell is not on it. excuse me if I am mistaking this but this the info I see.

- ravagedagain"

I politely offered to send him as many of those stickers as he wants.
I also asked if he would share what he knows of the history of the machine.
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Re: "ORIGINAL" War Eagle...??

Postby iceman » Thu Feb 14, 2013 9:33 pm

nvmos2 wrote:I politely offered to send him as many of those stickers as he wants.


Oh, that's great! =D> Perfect response.

I can't believe he's actually using a $2.00 sticker as proof of authenticity.
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Re: "ORIGINAL" War Eagle...??

Postby iceman » Fri Feb 15, 2013 4:06 pm

Looks like the listing has been taken down. Searching by item number comes up with nothing. Maybe the seller reconsidered after all the messages he received or Ebay took the listing down.
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Re: "ORIGINAL" War Eagle...??

Postby andydotp » Fri Feb 15, 2013 6:19 pm

In reference to the repro War Eagle in 'Walker' console I mentioned earlier, to be fair to the seller he has revised his listing to "Antique Style" having taken on board some advice.
Still not my cuppa tea though..
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Re: "ORIGINAL" War Eagle...??

Postby Dave » Fri Feb 15, 2013 6:50 pm

iceman wrote:Looks like the listing has been taken down. Searching by item number comes up with nothing. Maybe the seller reconsidered after all the messages he received or Ebay took the listing down.


Today the seller finally responded to my email. He also referred to the "original" sticker on the side of the machine as his claim to it not being a remanufactured machine.

I informed him that those stickers are readily available.

I then informed eBay that the machine was a reproduction.

You don't suppose that eBay actually took down the listing do you? :?:

If they did, good for them =D> It would sure be a change in operation for them.

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Re: "ORIGINAL" War Eagle...??

Postby iceman » Fri Feb 15, 2013 10:20 pm

Dave wrote:You don't suppose that eBay actually took down the listing do you?


I've seen eBay take down listings before. Usually because the seller didn't have the disclaimer about the sale of slot machines included in their description. Sometimes the seller will then re-list the item and include an explanation of why eBay took down their original listing. I'm gonna guess that's what happened here.

Although just recently I saw a listing for a Castle Front that ran it's full course despite not having the required disclaimer. So it seems it's hit or miss with eBay's monitoring procedures.
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